After reading the articles

• [What the MySpace generation should know about working for free]
• [Domain Wiki for 3 Million sold] which produced 365,000 Google hits.

Social Online Collaborating Communities produce a wealth of ideas, information, movies, programs, social relations, etc. but they usually work for free. Sharing of generated wealth is not in their MissionStatement. Counterexamples welcome.

It doesn't need "rocket science" to see, that (future) online communities, who additionally support economic integration, will be more attractive than those, who adhere to the principle: l'art pour l'art.

Some OnlineCommunity, or better CommunityServiceProvider, have in their TOS (TermsOfService) a StayPoor clause. Let's become aware of this suppression mechanism, so that CreatingAndSharingWealth communities can be easier detected and developed.

-- FridemarPache

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But nevertheless, if you carefully read the smallprint you'll find words or tacit lores like:<UL><LI>only for private use</LI><LI>not for commercial use</LI><LI>no Spam allowed</LI><LI>no links to (commercial active) external sites allowed (<EM>Yes, the author remembers the time, when in some communities all kinds of external links were forbidden</EM>)</LI><LI>user grants the copyright to the service provider (<EM>possibly, but not necessarily a <A HREF="http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?CopyrightTrap">CopyrightTrap</A></EM>)</LI><LI>restricting the incentives to small beer values "affiliation, recognition, accomplishment" that are abundant in every online-community (from "<A HREF="http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?SelfishVolunteer">SelfishVolunteer</A>")</LI><LI>.. (<EM>please complete the list</EM>)</LI></UL><P>The reason for this <A HREF="http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?WikiPage">WikiPage</A>, which is at the same time a tag, and a <A HREF="http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?TrailMark">TrailMark</A> in the <A HREF="http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?FireTrail">FireTrail</A>: <A HREF="http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?CreatingAndSharingWealth">CreatingAndSharingWealth</A> is:</P><UL><LI>to help peers to save time for <STRONG>finding an appropriate community</STRONG>, especially a wiki, where they can realize a <A HREF="http://www.communitywiki.org/WikiWayOfLife">CommunityWiki:WikiWayOfLife</A>, which integrates the economic participation.</LI><LI>to help community founders and community service providers to <STRONG>make their venture more attractive</STRONG> to new and highly creative users, who otherwise would be forced to work elsewhere for money.</LI></UL><P>-- <A HREF="http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?FridemarPache">FridemarPache</A></P><P><STRONG>Discussion:</STRONG></P><UL><LI>The problem with spam, specially <A HREF="http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?WikiSpam">WikiSpam</A> is not that imho we want other people to <A HREF="http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?StayPoor">StayPoor</A>, but that we want creative and useful contributions and not parasitic <A HREF="http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?BackLinks">BackLinks</A> to their site. -- <A HREF="http://fridemar.com">[fridemar]</A></LI></UL><P>--- <A HREF="http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?DiiGo">DiiGo</A>:</P>(1)<A HREF="http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?TrailFire">TrailFire</A>:<A HREF="http://trailfire.com/fridemar/marks/100489">[1]</A> <A HREF="http://www.google.com/search?q=StayPoor">Google:StayPoor</A><HR><A HREF="http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?MeatballWiki">MeatballWiki</A> | <A HREF="http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?RecentChanges">RecentChanges</A> | <A HREF="http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?action=random">Random Page</A> | <A HREF="http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?IndexingScheme">Indices</A> | <A HREF="http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?back=CategoryCategory">Categories</A><BR><A HREF="http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?action=edit&id=StayPoor">Ed<STRONG>i</STRONG>t text of this page</A> | <A HREF="http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?action=history&id=StayPoor">View other revisions</A> | <A HREF="http://sunir.org/apps/meta.pl?StayPoor">Search MetaWiki</A><BR>Search:<DIV STYLE="position: absolute; 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display: none; visibility: hidden;" SRC="http://images.trailfire.com/theme/button.php/101.11001/on/open-tiny.png" CLASS="openTiny" ID="bubble-100489-hints-open"><DIV CLASS="subject" ID="bubble-100489-subject-wrapper"><DIV CLASS="label" ID="bubble-100489-subject-label">Title : </DIV></DIV><DIV STYLE="width: 502px; height: 108px;" CLASS="content" ID="bubble-100489-content-wrapper"><DIV STYLE="overflow: hidden; position: relative; width: 487px; height: 108px;" CLASS="bubblescroll" ID="bubble-100489-content-scroll"><DIV CLASS="scrollContent" ID="bubble-100489-content"><IMG STYLE="width: 64px; height: 64px; display: block; visibility: visible;" SRC="http://images.trailfire.com/theme/avatar.php/64/64/fridemar.gif?1179782830125" CLASS="avatar" ID="bubble-100489-avatar"><DIV CLASS="ownerline" ID="bubble-100489-owner"><DIV CLASS="ownerPrefix" ID="bubble-100489-owner-prefix">Posted by </DIV><A HREF="http://trailfire.com/fridemar" CLASS="ownerInfo" ID="bubble-100489-owner-link">fridemar</A><DIV CLASS="ownerDate" ID="bubble-100489-owner-date">  on 5/19/2007</DIV></DIV><DIV CLASS="markContent" ID="bubble-100489-mark-content"><H1><A HREF="http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?MeatballWiki"><IMG SRC="http://usemod.com/meatball.gif" ALT="[Home]" ALIGN="right"></A><A HREF="http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?back=StayPoor">StayPoor</A></H1><A HREF="http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?MeatballWiki">MeatballWiki</A> | <A HREF="http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?RecentChanges">RecentChanges</A> | <A HREF="http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?action=random">Random Page</A> | <A HREF="http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?IndexingScheme">Indices</A> | <A HREF="http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?back=CategoryCategory">Categories</A><BR><HR>Of course no online community provider dares to say "Stay poor!" to their members in its terms of service. But nevertheless, if you carefully read the smallprint you'll find words like:<UL><LI>only for private use<BR><BR><BR></LI><LI>not for commercial use<BR><BR><BR></LI><LI>no Spam allowed<BR><BR><BR></LI><LI>no links to (commercial active) external sites allowed (<EM>Yes, the author remembers the time, when in some communities all kinds of external links were forbidden</EM>)<BR><BR><BR></LI><LI>user grants the copyright to the service provider (<EM>possibly, but not necessarily a <A HREF="http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?CopyrightTrap">CopyrightTrap</A></EM>)<BR><BR><BR></LI><LI>.. (<EM>please complete the list</EM>)<BR><BR><BR></LI></UL><P>The reason for this <A HREF="http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?WikiPage">WikiPage</A>, which is at the same time a tag, and a <A HREF="http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?TrailMark">TrailMark</A> in the <A HREF="http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?FireTrail">FireTrail</A>: <A HREF="http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?CreatingAndSharingWealth">CreatingAndSharingWealth</A> is:</P><UL><LI>to help peers to save time for <STRONG>finding an appropriate community</STRONG>, especially a wiki, where they can realize a <A HREF="http://www.communitywiki.org/WikiWayOfLife">CommunityWiki:WikiWayOfLife</A>, which integrates the economic participation.<BR><BR><BR></LI><LI>to help community founders and community service providers to <STRONG>make their venture more attractive</STRONG> to new and highly creative users, who otherwise would be forced to work elsewhere for money.<BR><BR><BR></LI></UL><P>-- <A HREF="http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?FridemarPache">FridemarPache</A></P><P><STRONG>Discussion:</STRONG></P><UL><LI>The problem with spam, specially <A HREF="http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?WikiSpam">WikiSpam</A> is not that imho we want other people to <A HREF="http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?StayPoor">StayPoor</A>, but that we want creative and useful contributions and not parasitic <A HREF="http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?BackLinks">BackLinks</A> to their site. -- <A HREF="http://fridemar.com">[fridemar]</A><BR><BR><BR></LI></UL><P>--- <A HREF="http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?DiiGo">DiiGo</A>:</P>(1)<A HREF="http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?TrailFire">TrailFire</A>:(x) <A HREF="http://www.google.com/search?q=StayPoor">Google:StayPoor</A><HR><A HREF="http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?MeatballWiki">MeatballWiki</A> | <A HREF="http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?RecentChanges">RecentChanges</A> | <A HREF="http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?action=random">Random Page</A> | <A HREF="http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?IndexingScheme">Indices</A> | <A HREF="http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?back=CategoryCategory">Categories</A><BR><A HREF="http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?action=edit&id=StayPoor">Ed<STRONG>i</STRONG>t text of this page</A> | <A HREF="http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?action=history&id=StayPoor">View other revisions</A> | <A HREF="http://sunir.org/apps/meta.pl?StayPoor">Search MetaWiki</A><BR>Search:<DIV STYLE="position: absolute; 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TARGET="_blank">http://aboutus.org/SharedEcommerce.</A><BR><BR>I prepared a kingsize intro for you with a YouTube video :-)<BR><BR>All we need is a simple PHP-link without further parameters and how we get it.<BR>Although "Paypal account option = YES" is not quite clear.<BR><BR>Later on we need a "one-time", "first-come first served Pay-Button" for selling<BR>domains via an EditGrid or GoogleSpreadsheet in the spirit of <A HREF="http://aboutus.org/SocialDomaining" TARGET="_blank">http://aboutus.org/SocialDomaining</A> (a special case for <A HREF="http://ExtremeOpenBusiness" TARGET="_blank">http://ExtremeOpenBusiness</A>).<BR><BR>It would be great, if we could have a "OneClickDomainBuyButton", that makes payment and<BR>DomainTransfer one integrated process (including a cooperating DomainRegistrar, that could be E-Junkie.com :-)<BR><BR>All the best to all of us.<BR>Fridemar<BR>PS.: For maximal exposure of these ideas in the context of *****E-Junkie*****, I leave a bilinked copy in your forum, a backup in Aboutus.org and annotate it for the following Diigo groups: CreatingSharedWealth, SocialDomaining, ExtremeOpenBusiness. Besides that, I include it into the public WikiTrail, named "E-Junkie.com" and last not least, leave a notice on Twitter.com.</DIV><BR><BR><FONT STYLE="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">POSTED ON: July 7, 2008 @ 19:12 <A HREF="http://www.e-junkie.com/bb/topic/2713/pg/0#post7113" TITLE="Permalink">#</A></FONT>]]></description><category>CreatingAndSharingWealth</category><author>fridemar</author><pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 07:32:54 -0700</pubDate><guid isPermalink="false">trailfire:markId:226761</guid></item></channel></rss>